My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:42 pm

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aiight so one of my guitars is FUCKED!!!! like i tuned it the otehr night, played a g Chord, sounded fucken superb...played a C major and it sounded like crap. Had a check of the tunning.....yip was still tuned, turned out it's the guitars intonations, so i gotta fix that bad boy and ALSO i wana get my strings locked, what's the "professional" name for it? when they cut a bit out from behind your bridge and put those locky things in there?

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:43 pm

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Hey Sailor,
A few things come to mind... most likely the intonation is out.... is there much difference between pitch on a fretted 12 fret note and a 12 fret harmonic? if so the necks gotten a little out and you'll need to get the truss rod adjusted (I say get cause though you can do it yourself its reasonably easy to fuck it up if you haven't done a couple of em)...
We are talking bout bar chords?

Other thing that comes to mind, most likely not part of it but you never know.... The Octave and 12 step system is based on something a mathematician called Pythagoras noticed... He picked up that two bars of same density but one being 2/3 the size kinda grooved nicely together, harmonized... the 2/3 length gave something like a 5th... Something twice the size gave a note an octave lower, follow 5ths round in a circle you get the 12 notes.... except.... come the final note (octave) there is a slight slip, it doesn't quite work.... this upshot of this was when people played in C they played in the major scale(Ionian), A they played minor (aeolian), D was Dorian mode, E phrygian etc....
Bach changed the rules throwing out the cocept of 2/3 and going with a tempered tuning, everything is a little out of tune (ie the harmonics and sub harmonic overtones don't jive with each other too well) but it is way more versatile... without this cool stuff like pitch axis theory (think Satriani tapping in c maj then changing to the cmin variant etc) wouldn't be possible .... downside play a chord with a 1,3 and 5 in there it'll sound a little fucked up cause the harmonic overtones clash....
Yeah so either its the intonation or you've developed bats ears.

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:27 pm

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cheers man, when i do octave chords that are like

I--
I---
I-5-
I-x-
I-3-
I---

the G sting(ahaha yup funny lol) is out by a mile and i've just tuned. the whole 12th fret harmonic, 12th fret thing is also out, so it's gotta be the tonation huh? I'm guessing my fret board may have bowed? I'll take it into the rock shop one day

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:32 am

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Yip that'll be your intonation - get it to a shop to fix.

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:57 pm

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what about the string locking thing, anyone kno the proper naming of it?

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:24 pm

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"Locking Nuts"

No, it's not a device for genital torture

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:00 pm

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Hi there,
yea its intonation but the no1 cause of this is old strings. Change them and all could be rosie again. Thats the first thing to try anyway. If its still off then its the 12th fret harmonic thing. The worst example I ever came across was an acoustic that was a whole semitone out at 12th - with a new set of D'Adds it was cock on.
I think the locking thing you mean is hardtailing the trem. can either be blocked of completely or so there's just downward movement.
I've been a pro guitar tech for 15 years in the UK and just moved over here, if you need any help: 09 622 0788 021 912 678 My workshop is in Onehunga Auck Good luck with it

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:15 pm

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cheers captain, might give ya a buzz 1day

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:35 pm

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don't floyd rows help your guitar strings not to snap and stuff?

RE: My guitarrrrrrrrr. help me
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:26 pm

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*Floyd Rose

NOTHING really stops you from snapping strings.

Locking Nuts (at the neck end of the guitar) keep the string in tune, particularly if you have a floating tremolo (the mechanism on the bridge, which gives you the ability to drop your whammy really low or pull it really high).

Floyd Rose is a brand of these mechanims.

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