Pit of Despair
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:12 pm

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Check this out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_of_despair

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:18 am

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Woah.

That's intense.

DAAAAAAAAAAAARK shit that.

Not to mention extremely cruel to the primates they used

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:33 pm

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Yeah and it seems as though alot of that sort of stuff was happening in American Universities in the 70s. Probably not so much now as not alot of people would stand for anything so extreme now days.

But in saying all that, animal testing has brought forward some interesting results and conclusions that have been vital to our progression medically.

Still...these guys^^^have gone about it all the wrong way.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:57 pm

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and here is something more to think about...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:20 pm

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Ahahaaaa, Eddie.

Now he was a deeply disturbed individual.

(i'm a murder buff)

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:37 pm

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That "pit of despair" reminds me.... I'd love to try an isolation tank for meditation.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:32 pm

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Is a meditation tank one of those egg shaped things you lay down in and your sort of floating on thick water?

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:04 pm

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Yup, that's the one.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:08 pm

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I saw those on triangle tv once. They look amazing. Apparently if you let yourself dwevll into it you can really trip out and stuff because it's so dark and it feels like your eyes are closed when they are open. And it feels like you are weightless because if you lay still enough for long enough you cannot feel anything touching you. I sooooo want to try one one day, hardout!

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:16 pm

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Read that a while back. What a sick puppy.

It's amazing what a bit of chronic schizophrenia mixed with an overbearing mother figure can do to a fragile psyche.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:18 pm

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Joe Rogan (that dude off Fear Factor) recommends doing it on MUSHROOMS... That's gotta be INTENSE. I'd probably end up panicking and thrashing about.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 7:38 am

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Where did you find that book?

Apparently Americans love Joe Rogan and he is better known for his comedian career then fear factor over there. Don't have much time for him personally.

I don't reckon you'd need drugs in a thing like that if you let yourself get fully imerst in it, but it could be kinda fun to.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:13 am

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Yeah Joe Rogan is actually pretty funny. Gets a bit stupid sometimes but when he's "on" he's hilarious.

There's a radio interview on the net where he's talking about the effects of DMT (the most powerful psychedelic known to man), shrooming in isolation tanks etc. The dude's nuts.

DMT sounds insane... not just "OMG the curtain just moved"... more like "OMG I went to another universe and talked to beings made of pure spirit."

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 11:28 am

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Sounds dangerous.

Would they have that book in libraries?

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 3:15 pm

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You'd probably find that book at libraries. It has various covers depending on the edition. Psycho and Texas Chainsaw massacre (and countless others) were inspired by Gein. The leatherface character in particular (wearing other people's skin).

The song "Skinned" by Blind Melon is about him I've always thought - it's funny, because it's such a nice feel-good song! "I'll make a shoe-horn out of your shin"

I scored my copy of "Deviant" at a 2nd hand book shop, I'm always looking for books on serial killers.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:13 pm

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Leatherface in the remade chainsaw massacre film is tupid because it suggests he wears the 'leatherface' to cover his mutilated face.

what does the book cover? Alot of glorious gory detail?

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:55 pm

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It covers everything. His mental state, his upbringing, the character of the town (Plainfield). The murders, the case, the trial etc.

All in all he was heavily schizophrenic, his mother rammed religion down his throat, had him convinced all women were whores who had to be punished.

When she died it just went downhill from there. The voices he heard became his mother.

Like someone I know - their mother (we suspect she's schizophrenic) is heavily religious. God is talking to her all the time.

That's the stuff I find interesting - what gets a person to the point they'll do that shit. Not so much the crazy shit itself.

The human psyche is fascinating.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:15 pm

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Yeah it is really ineresting. But how did the author know all this information?

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 10:18 am

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Uh, the same way other authors do, research.

RE: Pit of Despair
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 10:49 am

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Yeah but how would they know he did ome of the really specific stuff they talk of without actually being here with him?