BZP ban
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:25 am

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Views on the banning of party pills and products containing BZP.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:20 pm

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Views on BZP...

It's a really crappy high and I don't know why anybody bothers.

I think the government banning it will just push it underground with the other drugs.

The government missed the boat and should have had laws in place to prevent it being sold in the frist place, instead of reacting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too late, leaving them no option but prohibition.

The people that go out, get drunk, and take fist-fulls of these stupid pills deserve to end up waking on a riverbank with their pants around their ankles. Shame they can't outlaw stupidity.

This message was edited by K.I.N.G on Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:22 pm.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:04 pm

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Alcohol and Cigarettes do waaaay more damage than BZP does, so you could argue what's the point in a ban...

I think honestly, though, that the reason they can get away with it (I don't see any protest marches going on) is due to it's relatively new introduction (comparatively) and the fact that it's not ingrained in the culture ... unlike cigarettes and alcohol - they tried banning alcohol once, but that didn't work (and that was bloody years ago) ... just imagine if they tried to do it now... and cigarettes, they cause lung cancer, and you can buy them in a dairy, but imagine the ruckus if the government tried to ban them!

Is it a good thing? I don't use them (well, once or twice) so i don't care ... and really who's gonna care 2 years from now.

The stuff may go underground, but end of the day (as K.I.N.G. said) they ain't that great, so if you're gonna buy something you might as well go for something better, so I don't think it's going to change anything, apart from pissing off a minority group, and giving the cops another revenue stream from subsequent fines.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:03 am

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Absolutely.

If they can't have it legal, and tax it, without pissing off the conservative-right, then they ban it.

It's funny, our drug classifications act.... I've heard it's being reviewed soon (for the first time in 30 years) - and they've admitted that if they included alcohol into that group, it would be CLASS-B! Hahaha. Brilliant. But it's excempt, so it won't.

Banning drugs like BZP gives us the illusion they're doing something.

The authorities need realise that the human race is obsessed with transcending consensus reality (IE: the reality that we've all politely agreed upon or have had drummed into us at school), and perhaps that needs to be looked at instead of banning stuff outright.

Ever notice that most of these harmful substances have been created either by the medical profession or industry? Heh.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:18 pm

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Yes, the side effects are quite serious and often unknown by the user. Although increasing your heart to a phenomenal rate is dangerous, can it be compared to the long term damage of cigarettes?

Smoking kills more people in cars than people who drive and text.

Ban fucking cigarettes, they are doing no one any good.

When it comes to anything in this region, our government pushes it so far away and refuses to discuss the sensible solutions, instead, they ban it all and believe it is solving something.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:17 pm

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clownie i think that you r wrong. id say that instead of providing an alternative to such substances as E they are a gateway to them. "sh*t i really enjoyed that party pill the other night and iv heard that E is like that except way better...." thats just my view. iv never tried party pills but have done E and LSD so i guess i missed the whole gateway thing. i never really found the need 2 try party pills. out of anything (including alcohol, cigerettes and pot) id say im an LSD kinda guy but i hardly ever take drugs anyway, only on the odd ocasion.
did i just contridict myself?? not sure

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:12 am

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Another complication of BZP is people seem to drink WAAAAAAAAAY more than they would normally, because you feel alert all night. The result is people getting even MORE comatose than usual (as if that were possible here hahah), and hence more prone to flipping out over nothing.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:41 am

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I think it's more that people become desensitised to the effect party pills - so your choices are to take more or look for something harder.

I'm sitting on the fence on the whole issue. I hate the idea that the govt is continually taking away our rights and turning us into a nanny-state, but at the same time I don't really care if BZP is banned - I never have and never will use party pills.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:15 pm

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People will try anything to get wasted, it's pathetic.

HEY I HEARD IF YOU MELT PLASTIC WITH YOUR OWN POO, STICK IT IN YOUR EAR AND LICK A CAT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'LL TRIP BALLS

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:39 pm

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They´ve already brought out new products which are BZP but sure to have the same effect.

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 9:48 pm

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thats a very good view about it, same with marijuana u culd say but the government dusnt view it that way. theyre basicly harmless in terms of normal effects and shit but that dusnt matter to them. if bzp (or marijuana while we are on the drugs subject) were legalized then that wuld have tax going towards the government. the black market u culd say is just another bussiness 'ONLY IT'S ILLEGAL' and the money from bzp, weed, etc. culd be going towards something for the country (if the moneys in the governments possesion) instead of just sum random in ur town. a few things i could say would go good on the topic only im not good at explaining this sort of shit in big long essays but i thnk ive pretty much sumd up my opinion on it while ive had the chance really... personal opinion though

p.s. i mentiond the government doing shit with the money in parts, not to say i know much about politics in nz or wot they earn/spend/etc. but if anyone can contribute to that, that wuld be great

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:55 pm

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i just reckon it sucks for those who do use it a bit more wisely. yeah okay some drunk guy on party pills fucked up here real bad and it was on the news and it brought open a big wide interest in what they do.

personally, i do enjoy party pills, i dont spend billions on them, nor do i (yet?? i guess to be honest) use it as a gateway drug, i like the fact it keeps me awake and allows me to ahve a good night, ive takent hem before concerts and just been wide awake and been able to enjoy the night a bit better than one or two stupid moments where i was way too drunk and just made a fool of myself and dont remember too much.

In fact i remained the same old me, just in a heightened state, they havent made me want to try E or P or anything, theyr just a little, every now and then kind of thing

And yeah, they do make u thirsty, but maybe im too much of a goody goody and im always really good about drinking water when ive got them, and very rarely mix alcohol with the pills, and if so only in minor amounts, ive never done the huge quantities they talk about on the news (people mixing different pills and using about 20 or more) coz thats ridiculous and a waste of money

and i agree with the things about smoking and driving/texting. NewstalkZB (works radio station) was saying that the rise in accidents related to texting and driving is one of the fastest increasing out of any in NZ, and drink driving,
duh
thats my rant, i jsut think its unfair when there are those who use them a little more wisely and dont kill people

RE: BZP ban
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:48 pm

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