How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:02 pm

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I'm sick of everybody dissing some artist they don't even know and arguing about petty bullshit.

I like new ideas and experimental music, it inspires me to push the boundaries of music in a new and exciting direction.
There is so much that has already been done but even more that hasn't.
The same formula will almost always yield the same result so I'm chucking a spanner in the works and making out of it shit to stretch the comprehension of the simpleton masses.

Don't diss, lets hear what inspires you.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:09 pm

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Metal, classical music, any meaningful music.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:45 pm

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You do realise that all music is meaningful to those who made it.
Specifics? Anything about that music that 'does it' for you?

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:54 pm

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Not all music is meaningful. Dont get me started on hip hop again

Music that does it for me - classical music, black metal, doom metal (especially), melodic death metal, generally dark, melodic, meaningful, underground music.

This message was edited by grim_entropy on Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:56 pm.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:56 pm

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inspiration, where to start?

Musically I tend to steal ideas from the guys considered the greats, whatever genre. As a musician this is as much a muscle stretching and at times muscle flexing thing- not all I learn would fall into 'inspiration'. Generally my listening tends to be mostly hard rock bands and such but I do like to get out the classical stuff from time to time, as well as 70s jazz fusioneers (Al DiMeola, Jeff Beck etc) blues players and various other bits and pieces picked up while going through the above (trawling music in general) such as Django Reinhardt and Chet Atkins.

The Beatles are a big influence on how to write a song, and sometimes how not to (I find Mcartney a little prudish at times, or perhaps just too 'English' if that makes any sense) likewise Queen are a huge influence.

Guitar wise my default settings are along the lines of Van Halen, Vai, Malmsteen and Michael Schenker- when in doubt what would those cats do? if you get my drift.

William Blake influences me with the robust way he uses words, Wordsworth- though often writing dumb lines- is awesome in his cadences, Shakespeare IS the greatest writer in English, and arguably the greatest writer in any language. Mood- For me Joseph Conrad is an influence in an underlying way (and part of the underlying philosophy behind 'Pyrhhic victory' our usual closing song). In a similar way lyricists like Bonn Scott are an inspiration, though not an influence as I'm writing for a female singer.

A saxophonist is an inspiration to come up with inventive legato lines, a keyboard player is as good a place as any in developing 8 fingered tapping exercises. likewise with the band (which doesn't have either sax or keys) Dave's drum patterns are an influence on what I play and often his dynamics affect how I play. Bass is a similar thing and likewise with vocals- How Mel phrases something will often make me change how I play something. Vice versa for the others I imagine.

Life and the world as influence. I wrote Pyrhhic victory as my spin on George Speight's takeover attempt (though underlying ideas were Conrad and Graham Greene's) Just one life was about a friend of the family and an eerie conversation one night. The enemy within is about how television conglomerates and advertising execs fuck with our perceptions of reality, plea is about love but it is also about war. Devils thoughts, a title borrowed from a Coleridge poem is about hypocritical evangelical types.

Fantasy as influence. Our centre piece at present is a song called Cassandra, something I've taken from a rock opera I started writing (working title- Keysman). Its fiction.

lots of things can classify as influence. I know someone whose biggest influence wasn't musical- that was just the mode of communication. Influence number one= her husband. Some people the music would have come in first not with her.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:03 pm

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tag onto that history. Just finished writing a celtic sounding song called Pendle hill. lyrically it is about the pendle witchtrials of the 17th century. A woman called Alizon Device finds herself up on charges after a heated argument leads the other party to keel over from a heart attack. it lead to the persecution of 11 people (mostly friends and family) of which several hung.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:26 pm

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Jeezuz...
Well I did ask.

I should have been more specific in saying that what I wanted to know was what it is about music that makes you want to play it. Not necessarily how you go about playing and who you most sound like but trying to put into words that 'thing' that a certain song has that gives you the warm fuzzies.

Squarepusher in particular floats my boat because his tracks are so layered and complex yet fit together with an admirable simplicity. They are also very descriptive without using any words. The choice of sounds and phrasing of them is undeniably indicative of a vibe or feeling, often describing situations from start to end entirely in sound.
Not everybody's cup of tea but I reckon that's where it's at.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:09 pm

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Great topic, well done you I find that some of the music of my childhood inspires me. I don't like Rod Stewart anymore, but I still love old Elton John songs - powerful, surging songs likes "Daniel", "Yellow Brick Road"......I tend to love that sort of stuff that I know all the words to, I can sing along when no one is listening. I love Nigel Kennedy playing the Four Seasons......great to drive along State Highways when no one else is there. I love the jazz renderings of Chet Baker and Dave Brubeck. I love disco, particularly the late 70's funk of Earth, Wind and Fire, KC and the Sunshine band, the Commodores early stuff, because I love to dance, and if I can dance sitting down, yay me! I love the more modern electronic stuff, not trance god forbid, that's upbeat.....rather partial I am to Groove Armada et al. Lovely and relaxing.
God, so much music that I just LOVE. That was a GREAT question, Carpentry!

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:24 pm

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Not that I want to, want to suggests a choice. I love music but I'd say I have to play.
There has been a sum total of around two weeks in my life since I was 10 that I haven't picked up a guitar every day. Most of those days when not playing have been weddings and funerals.
But the why I started thing doesn't give you the answer you're looking for.



I think it is all about feel and feeling. I'm a big fan of a lot of cats who can really move round a fretboard but I think it is the immediecy of the music that grabs ya. It has to make you feel happy, sad, angry, horny.... whatever
or maybe kidna take you on a journey some place.

Queen 'You and I' (A day at the races) just a feel good song. Freddie's vocal is just so up. Brian May's playing similarly kinda sparkles. Phrasing and May's killer vibrato but feeling is paramount.

LA Guns 'It's over now' (hollywood vampires) feelgood factor, generally through delivery. Slide grounds everything and chord voicings (passing sus4's) just seem to get at me.

your friend the cynic talks about Dream theater's 'Misunderstood' (six degrees of inner turbulence) as being the greatest song of the new millenium. I think he's jumped the gun a little but it is a good song in terms of starting somewhere and kinda roadtripping you somewhere. I think it is something that has kinda been lost in the age of the video, long songs that serve a purpose (instead of being full of pointless changes).

At the end of the day though it all comes down to solid hooks, something that is universal in good music and lacking in a lot of bad music.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:02 pm

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i know alot of people would disagree with me but the music that moves me is bands like AFI, My Chemical Romance, Alkaline Trio, Bright Eyes, Coheed and Cambria. I love the lyrics and they inspire me to write. Also their music just moves me. I love ALOT of other genres but these kind of bands hugely inspire me. Afi ALWAYS has and always will move me.

"all i have left is lonliness, holes in the walls and bleeding fists". i love the way the play at words, the imagry, its all beautiful. i love it.

This message was edited by hoping.in.anguish on Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:03 pm.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:50 pm

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afi and cohhed and cambia are ok
cannibal corpse deicide crytopsy dying fetus skinless and many bands like that
i also like tool soundgarden soad qotsa apc and that stuff
then the good ol stuff like megadeth, pantera early metallica and slayer
then the real old stuff like led zep and bands like that
i love it all

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:04 pm

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what genre is pink floyd?

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:55 am

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I love Scribe and P-Money. its all good muzic in Nz!!!

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:24 pm

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Ummmm.... PCP? LSD? One of those...


Oh and my favourite song of all time would be Herbie Hancock's 'Sly' from head hunters.

This message was edited by Carpentry on Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:25 pm.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:10 pm

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"hoping.in.anguish" - you are so right, AFI are absolutely incredible in the 'moving' aspect of music.
The most important thing in music for me is that the people actually believe what they are saying (and that the music/lyrics are actually good as well) or if not that they at least make it sound like they believe it. Although, no matter how good the lyrics are the music with it has to suit it as well - i have no idea how to explain how i conclude if i think the music fits or doesn't - it just 'strikes' you when it's right i guess.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:49 pm

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I know exactly what you mean.

I find I enjoy music that has no words but instead the instruments seem to speak to eachother. That sounds kinda weird but music alone that can speak for itself is pretty damn cool.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:59 pm

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yeah, like real cool instrumental music!! there's this track in metallica's "and justice for all" that cliff burton wrote, its called "to live is to die", 10 minutes long, instrumental and fucking amazing

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:24 am

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there a santana song (forgot what its called) that is just music. and he wrote lyrics for it but then tried to express those words through the music instead. so beautiful.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:40 pm

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Cavatina, the music in the movie the deer hunter, is a stunning little instrumental. Touching tongues off Steve Vai's 'Sex and Religion' is also very cool. Al DiMeola's first two solo albums 'Elegant Gypsy' and 'Casino' are instrumental cds worth checking out. "cause we've ended as lovers' and 'diamond dust' by Jeff Beck, Satriani's 'Surfing with the alien' cd, Stevie Ray Vaughan's 'Riveria Paradise', Gary Moore's 'The loner' all kinda cool in different ways.

Classical and baroque music lots of cool instrumental stuff, several posts worth. Can't go wrong with Bach, vialdi, Mozart, Beethoven, Ravel or Greig though in my opinion.

RE: How much do you like your favourite music?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:42 pm

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