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trixie

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Sun May 7, 2006 10:45 pm
religion fucks you up
 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Sun May 7, 2006 10:52 pm
trixie i've noticed your posts are lame.

they have no wit or intelligence behind them.

Therefore, you are a tool.

Have a nice night Mr Green
 

da cool cookie

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 12:18 am

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religion fucks you up


Religion can make some people feel apart of something.
N it gives people something to have beliefe in.






(Deleted last message it was taken to far.....)

This message was edited by da cool cookie on Mon May 8, 2006 1:14 am.
 

trixie

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 12:33 am
it's a line from a song.... calm down.
 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 9:57 am
well in future you should quote it so we know what your talking about. No, No!

what lame arse song is that from? Laugh
 

clownie

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 12:04 pm
johnsoncraigsbc, you sound like an anal-retentive twit.

Your attempts at shepherding this discussion board are sad.

I actually agree with alot of what trixie posts, so why don't you let her and others have their own opinions as you said in a recent post:

Quote:

thanks we do have our own opinions without your permission. cheers.


and don't deprecate them when they do.

Have a nice day Mr Green
 

wraith

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 1:13 pm
It is really a relief to me to see that soem of you question religion.

For me i ten to a agree with the "Fucks you up " philosophy.

I've met several born again christians, one of whom i had to prevent from sticking a scalpel in his eye bescause he took the "If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out" quote literally.

All the born agains or christians i've met all converted after over using a variety of substances and mistaking a bad high for having a vision of god.

Me personally, I see religion as incredibly dangerous, especially the more obsessive vaersions.

I grew up a catholic, read the bible etc, even read the satanic bible, which is drivel by the way, and I see the christian bible as a collection of stories/explanations written by people with less scientific knowledge than we have today.
In other words their way of understanding and documenting what was happening back then.

I believe in nothing at all, as in , no life after death, no heaven no hell, no gods, no spirit world, no visits from the dead, no supernatural world or events.

To be honest, I think if people didn't believe in these things, perhaps they may end up thinking twice before killing, stealing, raping or absuing other people.

One thing is true, we may have different backgrounds, cultures, skin tones, but we all bleed, and we live in a world that is hungry for blood.

Any way thats my 2 cents.
 

clownie

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 1:26 pm
That's exactly the way I see it. Well said
 

mrs delonge

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 6:51 pm
i reckon the bible is bullshit, its based on nothing, just people's view on the world at the time, i don't get how people could take it so seriously, i also don't get how they don't believe in evolution and they have the lamest excuses of why natural disasters happen. sorry to any christians i might have offended....
 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 7:04 pm

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I believe in nothing at all, as in , no life after death, no heaven no hell, no gods, no spirit world, no visits from the dead, no supernatural world or events.


whats happens to you when you die then? do you just simply cease to exsist? No, No!
 

da cool cookie

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Mon May 8, 2006 10:41 pm
Yea i want to know what appens to ya die???

Explain that wraith!!!!!

Before you take me name, take my fame,
Why you had to take my shame, take my flaws, take my blame
Feel my dirt, conceal my hurt, See my bruise, and this you walk in my shoes
You weren’t there when I was in deep thought.
When I had two choice, kill him or either leave New York
But I’m a truth tellea and that’s why I say what I’m sayin
And the only thing the radio playin is cause you be payin
It ain’t about who really hot no more
Beats would knock no more
so who cares who flop no more
I realize that most labels pay you for lies
And all that blood do is gain disguise
That you’re favorite artist shhhh
I know you hear that huh you wanna fear that what
Your worst dream is that you was gonna hear that
(uhh)Con the rap slash John the Baptist,
prepare the way for what I came to say today
They deceived us, had us thinking Jesus really didn’t need us
When he loved up all you
He loved them boys in hallway up in Broadway
even those who meet him for dope every 4 days
To the strippers in broad day up in Norway
To the Detroit player Gators in Moreys
With me its not just bars and music I walk with God
I have the scares to prove it,ugh

FROM DA SONG JESUS WALKS REMIX -KANYE WEST

This message was edited by da cool cookie on Tue May 9, 2006 4:22 pm.
 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Tue May 9, 2006 7:23 am
hmmmm ok. But no one knows what happens when you die so it's all just theories and beliefs! Neutral
 

wraith

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Tue May 9, 2006 12:41 pm
whats happens to you when you die then? do you just simply cease to exsist?


Well to my reckoning ain't yet been any proof to the contrary, so yup, logic dictates that we simply cease to exist.

Like I say, if we all grew up knowing or believing that then perhaps we might just be a little better to eachother. Life ain't a video game, no second chances.

Respect
 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Tue May 9, 2006 5:09 pm

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just be a little better to eachother.


i want this to happen regardless. Neutral
 

clownie

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:24 am

Quote:

Quote:
I believe in nothing at all, as in , no life after death, no heaven no hell, no gods, no spirit world, no visits from the dead, no supernatural world or events.



whats happens to you when you die then? do you just simply cease to exsist?


I believe so. I've been thinking about what happens when you die constantly the last 2 weeks.

What else could happen, nothing else is physically possible. Our heart stops pumping when we die, our brains stop working without blood.

Our thoughts are all purely neurological processes, not some divine insight we were given by "God".

If our souls are preserved in some sort of state when we die, then so would the souls of monkeys and other animals, for they share our basic genetic blue prints, just a more primative form.

And then if the souls of animals are preserved, then why not those of insects also, and bacteria, and even still why not trees, as they're living things too.

People like to think there's life after death, it gives them a sense of immortatily, and helps them deny the finality of death, especially if they've lost a loved one.

But I think when you die, for example if you drowned, first you'd lose consciousness, then your system would shut down. Then you're switched off, you're dead, forever.

Gone gone gone and never coming back. Ever.

So I advise you to emerge from ignorance and stop thinking we are such divine creations.
 

Tainted

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:34 am
The concept of a human soul living after physical death (and perhaps BEFORE birth) is vastly different from "religion" - which is usually dictated by a set of rules. BIG difference.

Personally, I think there's more to human consciousness that we have discovered so far.
 

Sailor

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:44 am
wow this is an old thread
 

foal30

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:45 pm
I have found it helpful to seperate in some ways Religion from Spirituality.

That some people choose or believe "Spiritual" but recoil from "Religion".
 

MindVandal

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:52 pm

The way i see it, it doesn't matter whether you believe in life after death, if we have a soul, or whether there's a divine omnipotent being guiding our consciousness into higher realms of learning...

*** The only thing that matters is what you do in your life right now ***

Which comes to the big question ... What is the meaning of life?
- That's not an easy question to answer for some people.

But here's what the meaning of life is for me:
To experience every situation to the fullest, to treat & relate to people with respect, to live life with respect for myself and not allow people to tread over me or get me down, not to dwell on anger or feelings of hurt (not always easy of course), and generally doing stuff that makes me happy


Maybe your idea of life is to shit on everyone to make yourself feel better - Is it? HUH!?
(ok enough tom foolery)

 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: What does Religion do for you?
Posted: Tue Apr 3, 2007 12:40 pm
<having so little faith in humanity must make you a very lonely man>

<you my dear, shall have front row seats!>
 

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