RE: i eat meat
Posted: Mon May 1, 2006 7:58 pm

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meaning who? there have been three dominant posters in this forum.


may I ask how old you are? Because you say you've been a vege for 17 years. Was this starting from a young age or did you stop eating meat at an older age? The reason I ask is I feel if I stopped eating meat now (at the age of 1 I would not feel as good as someone who hasn't been eating meat for a number of years. I would expect my body to take some time to adjust without meat. And my point is that you would cope well without meat if you hadn't eaten it all your life.

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Mon May 1, 2006 9:17 pm

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hmmmmmm i likada chew!!!!!

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Mon May 1, 2006 10:34 pm

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please elaborate!

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Tue May 2, 2006 7:52 pm

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sorry i saw it on the simpsons this guy with a huge jaw said it in a very italian accent

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Tue May 2, 2006 8:05 pm

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hmmmm I guess you just had to be there huh?

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Tue May 2, 2006 8:53 pm

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man foal30 u tryna giv us a lecture or your story on how you were a vege n and all that and yea what did u mene buy you two hit the nail on blah blah blah and who are the three dominant posters???? if u don't mind me asking just curious



This message was edited by da cool cookie on Tue May 2, 2006 8:56 pm.

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Tue May 2, 2006 9:57 pm

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If there's one thing that really annoys me in forums like this is people who post long posts like foal did, then get given a post in reply, but never reply or come back with a thoughtful answer. It's like they can't be bothered thinking anymore.

In future, if you cannot be bothered from the start, keep your mouth shut!

This message was edited by johnsoncraigsbc on Tue May 2, 2006 9:57 pm.

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Tue May 2, 2006 10:26 pm

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crikey, told off for tardiness in reply.Thats never happened before.

Sorry I have a day-job,I am Married, 5 Kids, and 4 Bands.
so I guess this wasn't quite at the top of to do list.

Lectures.
Um, It seems this is the way I post. Its not intentional.

You 2
Clearly the two I answered above, re: out of sight/out of mind, and supposed Health benefits.

17 years.
Yes I suspect I am well older than the vast majority of this site.I seriously dispute the agruement that adolescents will suffer by sans Meat diet.

there is a lot of infomation to support a Vegetarian diet, I think what is required is a willingness to search for reliable infomation and a basic compassion for other life forms. The Enviromental aspect cannot be understated either, simply your are acting far more responsibly by endorsing a Vege diet. Also consider the Have vs. Have not position, in that the "Third World" starves whilst raising the flesh you so fancifully fry.

To quote a slightly more famous Vegetarian.

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Tue May 2, 2006 11:00 pm

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oh that's ok how do u manage with 5 kids and 4 bands??
Who are the dominant posters???

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Wed May 3, 2006 12:40 pm

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is this your main reason for your diet?



could you please elbarote on this comment?



I bed to differ.

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Wed May 3, 2006 1:39 pm

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Dominant Posters.

I did not use that term, I was just indicating that two of you had relevant comments that I would espouse apon.

5 Kids 4 Bands

yes time management is important. However not nearly as important as an understanding and caring Wife.

Basic Compassion

ah, its part of it yes. I think I am unable to seperate the Steak from the Cow, you know? This may be childish, but its not a thought process I can beat. I like Animals, why would I kill 'em and eat 'em?

Enviromental Impact of Meat Diet

this is to do with Energy or Productive Use of Land. the "value" of farming space of Vege's versus the "value" of Cattle/Pigs. The water content cannot be underestimated to here, ask anyone in Canterbury...
If you believe in Greenhouse Gases or Co2 emmission then Meat based diet plays a large part in this. the Amazon would be an example of this, also be aware that this arguement has been hi-jacked by the big Corps, ie:there growing Soya Beans, not cattle, but those beans are for cattle feed...


Adolescent Vege

as above, 5 Kids and doing well...check with your GP, most Doctors now have broken the shackles of following whatever the Beef and Lamb board tell 'em. Heh...

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Wed May 3, 2006 1:47 pm

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This is understandable.



I still believe if i was to give up meat completely right now it would take some uncertain time to adjust?

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Wed May 3, 2006 4:25 pm

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what do you do if a epilectic has a bath?.....................throw your washing in.

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Wed May 3, 2006 9:33 pm

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That is a funny joke.

However all jokes should be posted in the whhhhyyyyyy? forum. Cheers

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Thu May 4, 2006 1:33 am

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i must say this thread is going very well

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Thu May 4, 2006 7:09 pm

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yeah it's really good because some people are discuss their opposite views while still respecting each other

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Thu May 4, 2006 7:57 pm

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Give up completetly, time to adjust...

Yeah Defiently JCBC,
anyone advocating an immeadiate "Road To Damscus" type conversion is being irrisponsible. I am saying it is possible, I am just suggesting you should get reasonable advice, ie your GP, not some foolish old man on the Internet.

Things to consider are your "natural body weight", the time of year (what veges are in season), do you have an allergies, and can you cook cos your going to need too. It pays to "organize" your local Supermarket, ie demand a Vegetarian selection, items like Falafel, Tofu, Tofu Luncheon/Sausages,Vegetable Stock for Soup, Soya Milk etc.
Look at recipe books , there is good selection of Vege ones out there, check SAFE website, Sanaterium, VEGANZ...

As with all things get a variety of sources before making a decision.

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Thu May 4, 2006 8:32 pm

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thanks but no thanks.

My mother has a no diary diet and her soy milk tastes rank!

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Thu May 4, 2006 9:57 pm

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I agree that a basic compassion for other life forms is a good reason for going vegetarian. Compare this to the arguments against vegetarianism:
Being vegetarian is a healthy way to live - the problem is if people who live on steak and chips suddenly cut out the steak, they're gonna be screwed, health-wise. But I don't see why eating a balanced flesh-free diet should take more effort than eating meat. It just requires an awareness of what you're eating.

Being vegetarian/vegan is enviromentally responsible because it is MUCH more productive and economical to use land to grow crops rather than feed cows. You know, statistics like 1 acre of land can feed one cow for a year but grow 2 tonnes of wheat (I made that up, but you get the idea).

If you are still think you want to eat meat, read this site: http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/101.html
But if it's just yourself you care about, remember "Vegetarians have a 20% lower rate of mortality from all causes"

RE: i eat meat
Posted: Thu May 4, 2006 9:59 pm

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Sorry, that really sounds like I'm trying to convert people... that's just what I feel about the matter. Feel free to have your own opinion.